October 9, 2007 | 5 Comments

Women Fighting Over Porn (And Not In The Good Way)


America has waited with tremendous patience for Tyra Banks to broadcast her highly anticipated and hypocritically self-serving slightly controversial look at the world of porn, and yesterday we were finally rewarded with that Very Special Episode. As you recall, our own Violet Blue played a part of this media circus and while it was fun to see one of our own on the teevee (even if her plug of a certain website was mysteriously edited out), we particularly enjoyed this segment in which housewives watch porn and then argue over its merits like the Red vs. Blue State stereotypes they were instructed to be. Unfortunately, we’re afraid that we can’t take sides in this fight without the answer to one key question: What movie were they watching? After all, if someone out there is actually defending “Kim Kardashian: Superstar,” we just might have to switch our allegiance. (Also, where do we get our own “Love Butler”?)

Previously: Violet Vs. Tyra: Clash Of The Titans

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  • brocklanders79

    Notice how not one woman on there is even remotely attractive. I’m just saying…

  • Conrad

    I think this fits quite nicely here:

    “Dan Savage is a nationally syndicated alternative weekly sex columnist.
    What I don’t understand is … gee, how people can be so willfully stupid about sex. Sex came first. Before marriage, there was sex. Before religion, there was sex. Before freakin’ humans, there was sex. All human cultures, and all our fanciful religions, were constructed around sex, built to regulate and control sex, sanctify and elevate sex. But so many people want to start with culture or religion before they approach sex, as if the former can teach us all we need to know about the latter. Not true. We have to start with sex. I’m not arguing that we should do away with all regulations or controls, or that sex shouldn’t be sanctified or elevated. But there are regulations and controls that are idiotic, products of a time when we didn’t truly understand human hair growth-or physics or gravity or the movement of the planets-much less human sexuality, and they should be reassessed. I’m thinking of bans on prostitution, bans on same-sex marriage, the promotion of “normal” sexuality (meaning: no kinks), the cultural assumption that the ability to have sex without love is evidence of some sort of mental illness. In these areas, some of our attempts to sanctify and elevate sex run so counter to human nature that they cause nothing but misery.” (from: [www.slate.com])

  • greasycreases

    cultural accpetance of pornography is changing with new generations. yeah, put a bunch of middle-aged housewives on t.v. and see who likes porn. Some of them aren’t going to admit watching porn on national television and the others came from a different era. i’ll bet you dollars to donuts that twenty years from now housewives will have a different perspective.

  • Justin K. Rivers

    Did anyone else notice just how awkward the entire thing was? Tyra destroyed whatever social gracefulness (not to mention ideological discourse) could have resulted.

    Best worst moment: Violet’s laughcringe when Tyra says “we want to know so we can fake [an orgasm].” You can just see her hope of having a meaningful sex-positive discussion evaporate into little TV pixels of loathing.

    Loved the lackluster audience, too. Must’ve been lured there thinking it was gonna be Oprah.

  • Ms Naughty

    We don’t get Tyra here in Australia so I didn’t get to see the whole thing. There’s three clips on Youtube – they all focus on the manufactured conflict. Thankfully we do get to see Nina Hartley tell the girls that it’s all about choice, thank you very much. And she does so in a very articulate and intelligent way, which is great to see.

    I guess it all just comes back to the fact that the mainstream media still can’t get it’s head around the fact that women like porn. Or that porn might be anything other than a DVD. Or that some porn might be creative, or positive, or female friendly. So they go for the obvious: conflict and amazement that a woman would enjoy the odd bit of smut.

    Gotta say though… someone needs to disabuse that woman of the idea that it’s “educational”!